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Question Number 179131 by cortano1 last updated on 25/Oct/22

Commented by cortano1 last updated on 25/Oct/22

find the area of circle

$$\mathrm{find}\:\mathrm{the}\:\mathrm{area}\:\mathrm{of}\:\mathrm{circle} \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 25/Oct/22

circle is not uniquely defined.

$${circle}\:{is}\:{not}\:{uniquely}\:{defined}. \\ $$

Commented by cortano1 last updated on 25/Oct/22

why sir?

$$\mathrm{why}\:\mathrm{sir}? \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 25/Oct/22

example: the green circle is also ok.

$${example}:\:{the}\:{green}\:{circle}\:{is}\:{also}\:{ok}. \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 25/Oct/22

Commented by cortano1 last updated on 25/Oct/22

yes sir Mr W. Agree with you

$$\mathrm{yes}\:\mathrm{sir}\:\mathrm{Mr}\:\mathrm{W}.\:\mathrm{Agree}\:\mathrm{with}\:\mathrm{you} \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 25/Oct/22

with the given condition we have  following largest circle and smallest  circle:

$${with}\:{the}\:{given}\:{condition}\:{we}\:{have} \\ $$$${following}\:{largest}\:{circle}\:{and}\:{smallest} \\ $$$${circle}: \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 25/Oct/22

Answered by a.lgnaoui last updated on 25/Oct/22

∡COD=α   CD=4    OC=OD=R  CD^2 =(R−Rcos α)^2 +Rsin^2 α=2R^2 (1−cos α)  cos α=1−(8/R^2 )          (1)  BC^2 =R^2 (1−cos α)^2 +BN^2 ⇒   BN^2 =9−R^2 (1−cos α)^2   dautre part  =BC^2 =OB^2 +OC^2 −2OBOCsin α  OB=ON−BN=Rsin α−(√(9−R^2 (1−cos α)^2 ))   OB^2 =R^2 sin^2 α+(9−R^2 (1−cos α)^2 −2Rsinα(√(9−R^2 (1−cos α)^2  ))    =2R^2 cos α(1−cos α)+9−2Rsin α(√(9−R^2 (1−cosα)^2 ))   BC^2 =R^2 +[2R^2 cos α(1−cos α)−2Rsin α(√(9−R^2 (1−cos α)^2 )) ]   −2Rsin α[Rsin α−(√(9−R^2 (1−cos α)^2 )) ]   BC^2 =  R^2 +2R^2 cos α(1−cos α)−2R^2 sin^2 α+9         =R^2 +2R^2 cos α−2R^2 cos^2 α−2R^2 sin^2 α+9  9=2R^2 cos α−R^2 +9  cos α=(1/2)⇒   α=(π/3)   (1)⇔(1/2)=1−(8/R^2 )⇒R=4  Donc  aire du cercle =16π

$$\measuredangle\mathrm{COD}=\alpha\:\:\:\mathrm{CD}=\mathrm{4}\:\:\:\:\mathrm{OC}=\mathrm{OD}=\mathrm{R} \\ $$$$\mathrm{CD}^{\mathrm{2}} =\left(\mathrm{R}−\mathrm{Rcos}\:\alpha\right)^{\mathrm{2}} +\mathrm{Rsin}\:^{\mathrm{2}} \alpha=\mathrm{2R}^{\mathrm{2}} \left(\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\right) \\ $$$$\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha=\mathrm{1}−\frac{\mathrm{8}}{\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} }\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\left(\mathrm{1}\right) \\ $$$$\mathrm{BC}^{\mathrm{2}} =\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} \left(\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\right)^{\mathrm{2}} +\mathrm{BN}^{\mathrm{2}} \Rightarrow\:\:\:\mathrm{BN}^{\mathrm{2}} =\mathrm{9}−\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} \left(\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\right)^{\mathrm{2}} \\ $$$${dautre}\:{part} \\ $$$$=\mathrm{BC}^{\mathrm{2}} =\mathrm{OB}^{\mathrm{2}} +\mathrm{OC}^{\mathrm{2}} −\mathrm{2OBOCsin}\:\alpha \\ $$$$\mathrm{OB}=\mathrm{ON}−\mathrm{BN}=\mathrm{Rsin}\:\alpha−\sqrt{\mathrm{9}−\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} \left(\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\right)^{\mathrm{2}} }\: \\ $$$$\mathrm{OB}^{\mathrm{2}} =\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{sin}\:^{\mathrm{2}} \alpha+\left(\mathrm{9}−\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} \left(\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\right)^{\mathrm{2}} −\mathrm{2Rsin}\alpha\sqrt{\mathrm{9}−\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} \left(\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\right)^{\mathrm{2}} \:}\right. \\ $$$$ \\ $$$$=\mathrm{2R}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\left(\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\right)+\mathrm{9}−\mathrm{2Rsin}\:\alpha\sqrt{\mathrm{9}−\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} \left(\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{cos}\alpha\right)^{\mathrm{2}} }\: \\ $$$$\mathrm{BC}^{\mathrm{2}} =\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} +\left[\mathrm{2R}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\left(\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\right)−\mathrm{2Rsin}\:\alpha\sqrt{\mathrm{9}−\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} \left(\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\right)^{\mathrm{2}} }\:\right]\:\:\:−\mathrm{2Rsin}\:\alpha\left[\mathrm{Rsin}\:\alpha−\sqrt{\mathrm{9}−\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} \left(\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\right)^{\mathrm{2}} }\:\right] \\ $$$$\:\mathrm{BC}^{\mathrm{2}} =\:\:\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} +\mathrm{2R}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\left(\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha\right)−\mathrm{2R}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{sin}^{\mathrm{2}} \alpha+\mathrm{9} \\ $$$$\:\:\:\:\:\:\:=\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} +\mathrm{2R}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{cos}\:\alpha−\mathrm{2R}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{cos}\:^{\mathrm{2}} \alpha−\mathrm{2R}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{sin}\:^{\mathrm{2}} \alpha+\mathrm{9} \\ $$$$\mathrm{9}=\mathrm{2R}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{cos}\:\alpha−\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} +\mathrm{9} \\ $$$$\mathrm{cos}\:\alpha=\frac{\mathrm{1}}{\mathrm{2}}\Rightarrow\:\:\:\alpha=\frac{\pi}{\mathrm{3}} \\ $$$$\:\left(\mathrm{1}\right)\Leftrightarrow\frac{\mathrm{1}}{\mathrm{2}}=\mathrm{1}−\frac{\mathrm{8}}{\mathrm{R}^{\mathrm{2}} }\Rightarrow\mathrm{R}=\mathrm{4} \\ $$$$\mathrm{Donc}\:\:\mathrm{aire}\:\mathrm{du}\:\mathrm{cercle}\:=\mathrm{16}\pi \\ $$$$ \\ $$

Commented by a.lgnaoui last updated on 25/Oct/22

Commented by mr W last updated on 25/Oct/22

as i said, there is no unique solution!  2≤R≤((3+(√(41)))/2) is possible.

$${as}\:{i}\:{said},\:{there}\:{is}\:{no}\:{unique}\:{solution}! \\ $$$$\mathrm{2}\leqslant{R}\leqslant\frac{\mathrm{3}+\sqrt{\mathrm{41}}}{\mathrm{2}}\:{is}\:{possible}. \\ $$

Commented by a.lgnaoui last updated on 25/Oct/22

yes  because  the raport(3/4) can be   presented with differentes Radius of curcles  like the interals [2,((3+(√(41)))/2)]  (en particulier R=4)

$${yes}\:\:{because}\:\:{the}\:{raport}\frac{\mathrm{3}}{\mathrm{4}}\:{can}\:{be}\: \\ $$$${presented}\:{with}\:{differentes}\:{Radius}\:{of}\:{curcles} \\ $$$${like}\:{the}\:{interals}\:\left[\mathrm{2},\frac{\mathrm{3}+\sqrt{\mathrm{41}}}{\mathrm{2}}\right] \\ $$$$\left({en}\:{particulier}\:{R}=\mathrm{4}\right) \\ $$$$ \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 25/Oct/22

yes.

$${yes}. \\ $$

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